Adsense Secrets Scam Alert

Thanks for the heads up. I knew that book looked too good to be true.

Good for you Mark for calling it what it is. Not sure many bloggers would have the balls to say it.

John Chow was also promoting the book... I was curious how much the affiliate payout on it is

Can Joel Comm be more specific in his selling?
He may have a good product.
But he actually charged additional cost in fine prints... Not even at the CheckOut when I clicked... :(

I even promoted his book in my blog post.

Joel Comm is a great marketer who'd sell his mom on eBay if he could make it profitable year after year. Just my opinion which I am fully entitled to.

> Shawn didn't realize or mention it in his review...

Totally didn't realize - I expected there would be upsells, but not automatic.

Thanks for pointing this out.., When I was watching internet millionaire show, I subscribed to his daily email. Every other day, I would get some sales email, looks like great story and when you go and follow link, I get trapped in these kind of sales landing pages... simply unsubscribed all.

Want to buy just the book and not get the monthly billing? Go to the order page and then click cancel. You'll be given the option to just buy the book for $9.95 and nothing else...well...nothing except for a few upsell pages that you can cancel through.

Originally posted on twitter:
http://twitter.com/ShaneEubanks/statuses/790692261

I knew there had to be a "wait....don't go offer." Just had to dig for it.

@Shane - wow, a different offer if you hit cancel lol. Thanks for the heads up.

For some reason I don't trust that either after the first deception.

@all - thanks for the comments

I've read many of your rants in regards to sales pages in the past and I normally disagree. But I don't care for this type of tactic at all.

My feelings are that not all long sales pages are scams. There are MANY excellent products out there that are sold via long, "hyped" sales pages.

But, you're absolutely right here, Mark. The overall pitch makes you think you're just buying a low-priced ebook, but you're really creating a monthly membership, not cool.

Well...he needs a new developer. There's a non-secure image on the secured page, which causes security issues. But that's another story.

Throw in every marketing tactic possible....oooooorrrrrr....code the checkout page correctly. Hmmmmmm.

Oh...one last comment. He has a hackersafe logo on the checkout page, but it's just that...a logo. There's no hackersafe scanning anywhere. There SHOULD be code referring to scanalert that scans the page daily for vulnerabilities, but there's NONE. NOT hackersafe.

Just wanted to give everyone a heads-up on that part of it.

thanks @josh

wow @shane - I think he needs to hire you ;)

haha no way...I don't do sales novels...I mean letters. No offense to those that do, but ugh...I'd rather slick my hair back and sell used cars. I love my life too much to have tons of people ticked off at me.

No thanks!

Good post. It is sloppy for people to promote something on their blog that they don't even use themselves or at least take the time to check out. But I'm sure you've noticed by now that there is a lot of buddy promotion out there, so take it with a grain of salt. And people should save their money - http://www.google.com/adsense/

They have optimization tips, case studies etc. They want you to make more money because they make more money.

If a dollar can be made from affiliate sales; everyone will be promoting Adsense Secrets4. The real money made will be from the subscriptions. Mark you should produce an e-book with a lot of fine print. “45n5 ways to sell an e-book and get rich off credit card monthly renewal fees by internet marketing guru Mark Wielgus.” Buy it now before google pays too much in commissions. Hurry before the secrets are gone. Limited supplies act now before Mark is richer than Bill Gates.

Here here! Nice one Mark!

Ever wonder why the millionaire affiliate marketers promote this crap? ;)

Surely this is illegal, even if it is there in the fine print?

Thanks for the heads up Mark. I almost bought the damn thing!

Ya know? I'm not a fan of marketers like Joel Comm - I read his stupid Adsense book for $97, and simply put - it was a waste of money to begin with.

I would be willing to say that this guy has never even made a dime off Adsense for all the hype - if he is such a great and rich adsense guru - why write a book and deceive people trying to sell more copies of that book?

Why not lay everything out in easy terms? If you want a monthly thing, why not open a private class or something with a real curriculum, and a forum, and charge like $10/month.

I've been on the internet long enough to know that any information you need on pretty much any subject can be had for just about nothing if you have the time to do research.

It's all in google - go to some forums and ask about making money with adsense and find out the free way. Getting scammed isn't worth it.

It's just like the Build a Niche Store Scam - you can easily build one of those with Wordpress, with no out of pocket expense at all, save a $9 domain name.

It amazes me how many scammers are out there that get talked about every time they release something new... It totally pisses me off, that they have managed to build a good rep, while still being a scammer.

Thanks for calling him out, Mark. I, too, was about to purchase the book out of curiosity, but wont, anymore.

I wonder what Joel will have to say about all this.

everything and I mean everything Joel teaches about AdSense is freely available on the net. just type in optimize adsense or what ever into google and you'll get most of what you need to know, shit even just go to googles page and figure it out from there.
Bett yet get SEO for firefox. Find the top adsense earners Like ask the builder.com and reverse engineer their sites, Its work but it works.
Jeebers man if you're going to seel a subscription just say that's what you're doing. Bone heads !!! Sad thign is he is going to make a killing off of people who dont read order forms

Shane good point. If you really like ir somuch and want to learn from Joel, design your site similar to Joel and keep adsense in the same location same colors etc....

Mark, you should write an e-book : "Ebooks?, What Joel comm never told us about subscriptions".

Good work Mark on catching and publicizing it - this kind of thing is just plain wrong.

You know what Mark, I have seen this time and time again with a lot of clickbank products as well. That is why I posted the other day about to save up to 75% with them.

Also what someone needs to do is just buy the book and start giving it away on there site or forums for free.

More bloggers need to start showing the scams that are out there.

It has been said over and over again that AdSense is not what bring the post profit- affiliate programs do.

I so glad I was kicked out of AdSense.... one less person for Joel to market to. ;)

I was given the ebook before the campaign went live so I could read and review it. Even though I went to the landing page several times, I seemed to have missed that subscription mention on the order form page. I have since made a note to the review. Thanks.

Wow, I was like seconds away from purchasing that ebook too. I'm so glad that I walked away, I hate that hidden crap that they put on some of those sites.

... and thanks Mark for writing about it - I hope others read this and just walk away from the purchase too.

Nice work, Mark.

If your product is good, people will pay. There's no need to do deceptive things like this to squeeze blood out of the turnips (especially for an "educational" resource).

Keep it up-
Sam

Hi - I also did not see the small print and realised after reading a few blogs and on twitter that this was the case.
Never wanted to be in the continuity program.

Hamant

Excellent work Mark for exposing the scams.

Bring that Joel guy here and see what he has got to say.

Ask yourself this Q, if he knows the secret of making money, why would he wants to tell you?

Likewise, no top affiliaters will tell you their secrets.

I no longer use adsense.

Mark,

I am so glad that people like you have the courage to speak up against this type of "guru" marketing ploy. I am sick of these experts claiming that their stuff is so great that I just have to buy it. I agree with Shane and know that a person can easily find all the information they need in forums, blogs, and articles that are already free without being deceived.

I was actually going to buy the thing, but something just didn't feel right.

Mark - some nice detective work on your part.

I knew of some upsells being offered and that is to be expected with a "lead product offer" like this, but a monthly recurring billing in the small print is not cool.

Hoping to get Joel on a podcast to ping him on this stuff - Joel - you up for it?

I too have been promoting this ebook without realizing the $29.95 a month additional billing. Now I'm going to have to deal with a bunch of not-happy readers who are going to be looking for their money back and questioning my motives. The truth is, I should have noticed it and I didn't.

I guess I'll just have to let my list know that they need to request not to be billed the additional amount before it ever happens.

Thanks.
Robbin

So, for all of the people who've been promoting the book without knowing that there was a $29 monthly recurring membership fee, how much does Joel's affiliate program pay?

I gave up on anything related to Joel Comm awhile ago. I hope your scam alert helps people avoid the monthly fee trap.

Rhonda

The affiliate program details are out there Google it ;)

I just chatted with Joel and recorded a podcast - will have it up shortly

We'll see where this goes.

- Wade

http://www.adsense-secrets.com/affiliates.html

the affiliate program pays "Earn 40% of EVERY AdSense Secrets eBook sale!"

it appears he's even shady to his affiliates, having them promote and "ebook" and he doesn't mention a single time that they are also enrolling people to keep paying $29.95, seriously, it's never menionted on the affiliates page:

http://www.adsense-secrets.com/affiliates.html

@wade - great followup, look forward to the podcast. Won't comment on your blog cause it's asking me to login.

He needs to make it clear that I'm enrolling BEFORE i pay my money, any other time and it'd deceptive.

Common guys.....its listed on the sales page...its listed again when you checkout.....we have never denied a single refund....and there are several marketers who have done the exact same thing and not listed it even once either place.

If someone didn't realize they were going to be billed we will refund on the spot and we always have.

The "goofy report" is a print publication that our entire staff has been working on and coordinating for the last several months and its the best newsletter publication I have ever seen released by any internet marketer.

If you don't like the first issue when it comes out then there is plenty of time to cancel your subscription and YOU HAVE NOT PAID A DIME.

There are the guys who hack internet marketers site's when they release a new service and then make camtasia video's showing how they did it and there are the guys that scream scam when a successful marketer releases a product to get some blog traffic.

When someone gets the first issue it will be very obvious that they will be billed for it and rightly so. They have ample time to cancel it if they did not read the sales page or the items in their shopping cart.

@Joel Ownby - It's never mentioned on the affiliate page

"If someone didn't realize they were going to be billed"

If? It should be obvious by the comments here that many people were fooled including multiple industry veterans.

I think that is proof positive it is deceptive advertising, regardless of how you spin it.

furthermore:

"and there are the guys that scream scam when a successful marketer releases a product to get some blog traffic."

wrong.

I made this post because i was almost scammed, I knew people that were almost scammed, and i didn't want any of my other readers to get scammed. Rearead the post and watch the video, that's it plain and simple.

Joel Ownby ....

sounds like the Nigeria Scams!!!

FTC,BBB and hopefully the FBI/IRS will go after your A***


Show us the websites that use the Joel's adsense method to make $$$$...
Smells like BS !!!

Not to be argumentative but there is no charge and when you receive the newsletter there is a huge notice on the front telling you that you will be billed if you don't cancel. Scammed out of what exactly?

So here's the scenario, "You receive the newsletter that was listed in your shopping cart and on the sales page but you didn't realize it...fair enough. On the front of the newsletter it tells you that you will be billed. You either like it and keep it or call and cancel before you are billed if you don't?"

What have you been scammed out of....we just sent you a free full color newsletter with articles written by our entire staff not some ghost writers. If someone doesn't see the big note on the front of the newsletter telling them they will be billed, are we still to blame even though we give them a full refund as soon as they do realize it? Sorry I don't buy that one.

You didn't even mention in your video that no one was billed $29.95 until after they receive the newsletter and have ample time to evaluate it and cancel. I wish I could tell you the bonuses that people will receive as subscribers, but we are keeping it a secret until they get their first issue. If you want to talk people out of a great product before they even see it that is obviously your prerogative but it seems to me personally that you may be the one doing the disservice to your readers in this case.

how to make money via adsense is like

..send me a check and I will show you where to dig for GOLD!!

Whyyyyyyyyy would someone tell you the secrets of making money...I rather keep the secrets to myself!!!


If you like,Please send me a check , I will show you where to dig for GOLD in florida but

there are no guaranteeees

@Joel Ownby -

there is no charge when you receive the "first" newsletter

SO WHAT, maybe not at that exact moment, BUT there IS a subscription that is ordered for me DECEPTIVELY that I do not want.

And unless I take some action I WILL be billed for something I didn't knowingly order in the first place.

(there is proof enough just on this page that people are being signed up for a PAID subscription unknowingly)

These types of practices sound exactly like the ringtone offers where they offer you one thing (a free ringtone) and in the fine print sign you up for a ringtone service:

"Investigators found consumers responding to the firm's Web ads for free mobile ringtones often ended up unwittingly registering for subscription plans that were automatically billed to their cellphone accounts."

http://www.clickz.com/showPage.html?page=3627549

Take off your marketing cap for a minute and put back on your human cap.

I went to the site to buy a $9.95 ebook. That's what I wanted. That is what is ADVERTISED. Period.

Not to be unwittingly duped into signing up for some $29.95 subscription that I may or may not receive at my doorstep to cancel.

Hey Mark,

Someone pointed this fun thread out to me, so I thought I'd pop in and say hello.

Have we met before at a conference?

Ok, so here's the deal.

All other issues aside, I want you to know that this is not how this campaign was supposed to have been done.

The shopping cart we are using (whose name shall remain unspoken though you can probably figure it out) has made it incredibly difficult for us to proceed with the order process as we intended.

Originally, we had two line items for the order. One is the ebook, the other is the newsletter. That makes it even clearer that there are two items involved here and the customer could then set the report to zero quantity if they wanted to opt out from the beginning.

Well, one hour before launch we could NOT get it working right. It was extremely frustrating and we were forced to combine the ebook and the report into one product. Definitely not the preferred method for a number of reasons, not the least of which have been addressed here. It put us between a rock and hard place, and unfortunately, some people have felt like we meant harm.

It's not true. I've got the best customer refund policy in the industry. We take care of our customers to a fault to make sure they are happy. In fact, if anyone here on this blog has ALREADY purchased my book with the newsletter, I will give you TWO issues for free to make up for any confusion. Just email your receipt to me at joel (at) worldvillage.com and I will take care of it. You will have to have purchased before 7 pm EST on 4/18/08 to qualify.

If you look at the page now, you’ll see that there are two line items as originally intended, though we had to come up with a workaround to get it set as we wanted. There is still a problem with the cart functioning as it should and it affects some of our other products, but I'm dealing with it since this is the featured product right now.

You can check the link here and I’m thrilled to say that things are exactly as they should be.

http://www.1shoppingcart.com/app/netcart.asp?MerchantID=71064&offerid=37141&q=2

Frankly, I can’t wait until someone makes a shopping cart that does everything we need it to do. You wouldn’t believe the headaches we’ve had with our current system for nearly three years now. You may ask, why don’t I go somewhere else? All my affiliates are in the current system. All my products are linked to in this system. And frankly, I haven’t found a better option… yet.

Those who have purchased my products know that I put out quality stuff. The book and the report are no exception.

Those who ask if I am still making money with AdSense, the answer is absolutely. Always have and plan on continuing unless Google spikes the program (or something better comes along.)

Those who have to ask why I would write a book about AdSense if I am making money on it already need to spend some time in the business section of the Barnes & Noble. Honestly, it would do you good.

Our offer was fully compliant with FTC regulations on the sales page alone.

But I do wonder about "Nigerian" whose site, MalaysianYouTube.com is most certainly a violation of Google's copywrite. I wonder when they'll shut that down? ;-)

Mark, we should talk sometime. Feel free to ping me on twitter @joelcomm.

Best,

Joel

@shane the Hackersafe scan is on the main page at adsense-secrets.com. When you click, it goes to our payment processor who is also Hackersafe. :-)

Joel

Joel(s), it's probably best you also put that subscription info in the Product Order Information order form. You just have:

Top One Percent Report - Free Issue $0.00

Why isn't it there also? And as you can tell from watching the video and from the many comments afterwards, there is confusion about it and that falls to you. Even people who have been doing this a long time, were confused by it.

Also, why don't you hook Mark up with a free copy of the AdSense Secrets 4.0 report? Let him go thru it, compare it to what's available for free at Google Adsense and let him give his assessment of it for the readers. If it's as great as you say it is, I don't why this would be a problem.

@Jonathan I think that may make it even more confusing. It's free. No, it's $29.95. Well, I think I've spelled it out on the page two times and put a line item. And beyond that, it's still free and no one is going to be billed until AFTER the first issue.

Why haven't I given Mark a free copy?

Two reasons...

#1 - if you have a problem with someone, why not email them or pick up the phone before going off on them? I find that most problems can be resolved pretty easily when there is personal contact. Almost always works for me.

I'm easily accessible. Mark even follows me on Twitter. Why not message and ask for clarification before grandstanding and making a "scam alert" video? Honestly, this wasn't a journalistic venture, but some fact checking never hurts.

#2 - he hasn't asked. :-)

Mark, you know where to reach me. I've got nothing against you and understand why you did what you did. But perhaps I'm not the only one who can stand to learn something from this incident.

By the way, if you think this is bad... wow, I could show you some Internet marketers that deliberately hide their continuity so deep you'd have to go to China to find it...

Joel

"Jonathan I think that may make it even more confusing."

No, confusing is what you have now. Being upfront does not make things more confusing.

As far as hooking him up with a free copy, I'm talking about at this point. This a perfect opportunity to get what I think will be an honest opinion on the product. Cut out all the testimonials, cut out all those make money online blogs that push things they don't actually use etc. And like I said, if it's as great as you say it is, it'll be good for sales. Hook him up.

Thank you Mark, I was also considering buying the the book.

thanks for the comments @trust, @jason @all

@joel -

I think your correction to "Top One Percent Report - Free Issue $0.00"

Is still deceptive and sounds like "free ringtone" with a hidden subscription to me.

I think the part of your answer about it was the only way to launch is a bit lame.

Especially since your employee has already been here defending the deceptive practice.

Also, because you KNEW you were launching deceptively you should have made an extra effort to alert people during the checkout they were getting two products and would be automatically rebilled, if you were an honest businessman and not really playing politician now.

"Why not message and ask for clarification before grandstanding and making a "scam alert" video? Honestly, this wasn't a journalistic venture, but some fact checking never hurts."

Grandstanding. LOL.

The facts were straight, your offer was deceptive, you even admitted it above.

It's not grandstanding, it's called blogging. I got pissed someone tried to deceive me in my marketing travels so i blogged it.

If you don't want people to blog about your deceptive marketing tactics then quit having dozens of the blogs I read promoting them. Easy as that ;)

I make videos about my marketing travels and opinions here every day. This was just another one. Next one goes up in a couple hours.

Yea. Joel......send everyone a free copy!!

Do the right thing!!

I should have the interview with Joel up tomorrow on my blog and I have posted a bit on some of the items he covered here.

To his credit, Joel responded to my request to chat on this immediately and is working to rectify any issues.

If I figured such a secret I'd work it so hard for a year that the google payout photo would put me as the top marketer of all times and skyrocket my blog. Then yeah, I'd be selling lots of ebooks because I'd have a massive market and why not use it. "Landing pages" turn me cold with the exception of one that got me reading possibly because it had no hype.

@joel

As far as the hackersafe scan being on the sales page. No offense, but that's practically useless as no personal information is being passed to the sales page. The hackersafe scan *must be* on the checkout page as that is where the secured transaction is taking place. You had an unsecured image on that page, which created a breach in the security, which hackersafe would not fully accredit. Anyone can put a jpg or gif of a hackersafe logo on their checkout page, but this doesn't always mean it is hackersafe. I see you have since updated the unsecured jpg and the page is now secured as it should be. Nice work and I appreciate you listening to the community's feedback and taking action on any possible issues.

......we just sent you a free full color newsletter ......

ZOMG!, full color?!

Not only that, but it should be a requirement of all those that promote the product to make note of the additional fee, rather than just promoting the $10 book.

And I've picked on Darren for this on my blog, and despite his update, I think it's ridiculous that it isn't required to let people know about the additional fee, ESPECIALLY if they are promoting it using an affiliate link.

Good stuff on calling this out Mark, I am with you here, got hate deceptive stuff.

yeah, i made a post about this too. my friend got scammed! she got refunded and the newsletter membership was canceled. Just login to the helpdesk and request for it. Good luck!

(sorry i posted this comment in the other post. it was an error. Can you help me remove it?)

Thank you for your advice.... I don't believe in Joel's product.. To make money with adsense the unique way is Drive Traffic to your website.

Amen. I pointed this guy out within minutes of his paid review on John Chow. He basically just ate our niche out of 200k. I think I was among the first to call this guy out. He even was nice enough to comment on my site. OMG a guest appearance by Joel Comm. He said to relax, and right after you buy you call him and opt out. Call him? Why would I want to call him? The same reason why I would want your $30 report every month! I don't!!!

He could have avoided all this negative hype and slander by just charging the $10 and running. Or he could have charged $20. But don't re-bill us with nonsense.

Shudogg Dot Com - Make Money Online Blogging

Followup:

Here's my post followup to this post.

Joel screwed up and apologizes:

http://www.45n5.com/permalink/joel-screwed-up.html

Pachecus: But good placement will help you make more money. ;) Without buying the ebook, I increased my earnings by using a 300x250 in my post. You are right SEO traffic is the key.

Joel got publicity for his ebook but it's not the kind he wanted.

Mark is a blogger and not a journalist. I will often do like him and review a product/service that I used. But being an entrepreneur, I will enter in contact if something "weird" is going on.

I should plug my free ebook at this point. I don't even ask for your email. ;)

Anyway, I just hope others learn from that.

I bought Joel Comm's first ebook and was not aware that I suscribed as well to a newsletter for 29.95$ a month. Few days before they were going to charge my credit card, I got an email warning me of the subsequent payments. I was shocked ... and glad as well, because at least I received a warning.

I canceled my *unwilling* subscription and later on my subscription to their free newsletter as well.

What if I had been away from a computer for few weeks as it happens sometimes when my computer is acting up or when I'm traveling? My card would have been charged!!!

I received few emails lately selling the new ebook without warning again of the *ghost* subscription. Phase 2 of the same old same.

Even if they warned me on time the first go around, I would not trust them any more.

Mad kudos for doing the right thing! Really appreciate someone stepping out and talking out against these sorts of things similar to your stand on Contests. Here's one reader that truly appreciates you taking the high ground to speak out against this.

Joel Comm is pure hype.

Anyone who has bought from Joel Comm once, USUALLY would not make the same mistake twice.
He makes me feel dirty, the dirt won't come off...

Joel screwed up and apologizes:

http://www.45n5.com/permalink/joel-screwed-up.html*****


A hungry greedy hyena does not change his skin and why should Joel change his marketing tactics.
Think of all those poor folks got trapped by his scheme.

So Joel, how much have you made??

I do not use Adsense.

Sleazy tactics like this are all over the net. You need to read the fine print before entering your credit card information.

Also, you need to always check that you are on a secure SSL page when entering any financial information.

Thanks for pointing this out to the public. Props to you.

Stumbled!

Marie,

That is not correct. No one would have been charged for 30 days. And the report you'd receive in the mail has full instructions on how to cancel displayed on the front.

No one has been charged $29.95, nor would be until they received their report and had time to review it.

Another thing to mention is that 3 years ago when Adsense Secrets came out, Google didn't tell you how to optimize ads, and there were very few people who did. Optimization techniques were guarded secrets.

Adsense Secrets changed a lot of lives when it came out because there was no other resource to teach people how to optimize their ad placement. I tripled my income in one day when I read it.

And yes.. today.. Adsense optimization information can be found for free online, but time is money. I'd rather pay $9.95 then spend hours searching and compiling myself.

I was shocked when i saw the price tag of $9.95.... i throught why was he selling it for so low when the previous version was around $ 100 or so....

after reading your post i got to know about the real trick... that there is a forced continuity program attached it.

Thanx for letting everyone know.

Anish

What is his New York Times best selling book btw? Always got me curious...

I always have been against Joel Comm "promotion techniques" and that's why in September 27, 2007 I wrote about "Greedy Affiliate Marketers":
http://www.googlelady.com/421/greedy-affiliate-marketers/

check this out http://joelcomm.com/


I wonder why Mark is not part of Joel's Friends...

and

what does it takes to be Joel's Friends?

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Hi,
Thanks for the info. I was thinking of buying this adsense ebook due to its previous success but after reading this terrible idea of making more money by fooling people.

To "Joel"- this leads to loose all the trust that we have for you from paster years in one second.

Vikas

HI i bought joels adsense book nearly two years ago i thought it was good it must have been i have made $12 so far.I no longer use adsense.I then bought his templates a while later,i could not use them as a newbie so i sent them back i'm still waiting for my $99 they say they can't find them Stuff joel and adsense.Im still not making money but i'm not spending any either,but i still ebjoy trying.

thanks for exposing this!!!

i've stopped reading john chow's site coz he doesn't even write his own posts anymore. all he does is pimp the shit out of stuff.

I SU'd your page!good job.

Great post Mark, I have been scammed too.

I will send an email to Joel right away to cancel my subscription!

Thanks Mark, great job!
Francesco

Hi :D
Thanks for the information on SCAM alert where this is for me the BIG one.Everyone embed adsense code on their website know Joel Secret Adsense Book and unethical strategy he using now backfire on his reputation..What the shame..!!

I wouldn't mind paying a subscription for something that worked. The problem is every information product that I've bought is just a bunch of hype. Well I guess that's not entirely true, they have all been mostly hype and the good parts are what most already now anyway.


Nice catch Mark. :-)

Appreciate the heads up ;)

Thanks for notification. One of my friend bought the version of Adsense Secret 4.

Did I miss something? Joel says "one hour before launch we could NOT get it working right."
So, whats the frikken hurry, man get it right before you launch are you under some deadline by a maniacal boss? doubt it.
TEST TEST TEST
"I want you to know that this is not how this campaign was supposed to have been done"
NO? it was still DONE this way though. WHAT A FRIKKEN joke I'm sorry but excuses for in-effectiveness just don't fly.
Oh never mind why do I even bother

Google Adsense banned me so I have no use for it. Besides, Google teaches you most everything you need.

Thak you, for rewealing this sh*t...

Wow, what a crazy thing to do!

Oh my gosh!

Mark you are a hero for catching this!

Hahahaha...

Oh man, this whole post and all of the comments are pure comedy. As if his ebook actually has crap inside of it that really is new and worth buying, is funny in it's own right.

Now you guys are appauled that he's trying to get people to pay $30/mo for some "super cool 1%" club by tacking on an instant free trial that rebills if not cancelled??

WAKE UP!

This is not new. Hell, we did this in the adult industry for YEARS. That's how affiliate programs were able to pay $40 per signup on a trial of $2.95. Puh-lease!

Of all people, I think the real "shame on you" belongs to Mark. Why are you buying this crap in the first place man? You should know better! You point out a few people doing reviews to sell this garbage through their blog and you act like a holier than thou type of blogger? I dunno.. Sounds kinda fishy to me.

I'm so over trying to convince people not to buy ebooks or buy into any of this crap, but for every one person I help turn to use their common sense, they seem to be replaced by 1000 more idiots. So now, I'm just going to sit back, point and laugh at this all. It's one giant amusement.

My kudos go to Joel Comm though, because even with all of this "neg publicity" the guy is great at taking that and turning it into more sales. I'll bet you guys just landed him a ton of more sales that are affiliate commission free too because you didn't aff link it, haha!

Joel and his pals who sell this garbage have their place in the industry. I don't consider them "affiliate marketers" at all. Because they aren't. But you do have to give credit where it's due, and in terms of marketing this beautifully, Joel has done just that. So kudos to you Joel. I hope you make lots of cash by charging people for information they can get for free on almost any forum or I dunno, from Google themselves? Ha!

Thanks for the info Mark, what a shame Joel, but he did apologize. I don't know if people will accept that.