» April 30, 2007 in
I was quoted by SearchGrit for mentioning I had spam sites, which was an accurate quote.Of course, what makes a "spam site" is completely subjective, but I don't think it matters, because, There Is Nothing Wrong With Making Spam Sites!
Once upon a time I would sit almost an entire weekend, in front of the keyboard, typing articles for my websites. Oh baby, original content is king, yes and no.
Time after time I would see spam sites, scraper sites, and made for adsense sites ranking WAY above my original text for the same keywords. FRUSTRATING. So I thought to myself:
"Self, if somebody is going to do little to no work to rank higher than you in the engines, it might as well be you!"
After that thought I started diving into autogenerated content, datafeed remixing, mispeling content, scraping content, etc.
Of course I'm very careful how I monetize my spam sites, particularly if the content is scraped, I don't use adsense on scraped sites because adsense says not to, sort of, and when I'm in doubt I email adsense or the affiliate company first to see if I can place their ads on the content.
Even if your spam sites don't earn you a nickel, they are still AWESOME for keyword research, and I regularly check my spam site stats for keywords getting the most hits and then turn around and make REAL content for those phrases.
One more thing, the search engines LIKE spam sites also! You don't think the phd's at google could remove every piece of spam if they wanted to?
Ok maybe not every piece, but there are some techniques that work in google but not in yahoo or msn, do you think google is stupid and yahoo and msn have the better algorithm?
Alternative answer - The search engines ALLOW a certain level of spam. I'm almost convinced, you be the judge, but I'd rather it be my spam if they do allow it ;-)
Furthermore, by spamming the search engines, I can see what works and what doesn't work more than somebody playing by the rules can. I can also incorporate some of the techniques into my "non spam sites".
In conclusion, I don't see any problem with making spam sites, just use caution, ask if in doubt, and have fun!
(edit, the majority of my sites are white hat)
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Darren says on April 30, 2007
I'm afraid I don't see the point. Sounds like you're generating pages that don't help anyone and that just clutter the web up with jibber in the hope of making a few dollars.
Perhaps I'm just wired differently than others but I just don't see the satisfaction of creating a site that doesn't benefit anyone but it's creator...
Don't get it and am disappointed to hear it Mark.
45n5 says on May 1, 2007
Jon, Darrens Ip address resolves to australia so if the comment isn't authentic then the faker is going to great lengths to fake it. Darren has commented here before so I will assume that is the real Darren.
Darren, "I'm afraid I don't see the point." To make money, to gain new knowledge, experiment, etc.
I agree we are "wired differently", that's what makes life fun ;-)
Thanks for stopping by and commenting Jon and Darren.
Jonathan (Trust) says on May 1, 2007
Scrape content? C'mon Mark.
45n5 says on May 1, 2007
@trust - there is nothing wrong with scraping google, yahoo, msn, government websites, or any blog or content licensed under commercial creative commons license.
joe says on May 1, 2007
Hey mark ever consider purchasing keyword elite, one of its features allows users to instantly create adsense pages?
Think of the limitless pages you could create.
Jonathan (Trust) says on May 1, 2007
Yeah, think of the limitless junk you can create, I'm sure Google and the other SE's will zoom them to the top of the SERPS. You get what you put.
45n5 says on May 1, 2007
thanks for the tip joe, fortunately auto generating pages is not a problem for me ;-)
Sapphire says on May 4, 2007
As a visitor to sites, spam annoys me. I'm not wild about creating something that's essentially duplicated or otherwise pointless.
However... the vast majority of "original" content blogs are just scooping each other's posts, which is no more helpful than if they scraped each other. In some ways, sites like about.com strike me as huge spam sites. Take out the occasional original posts by LifeHacker's staff, and you have nothing but writeups about other people's posts. Still: LH collects them conveniently in one place. Is it spam or a resource?
All in the eye of the beholder.
And I can totally see your point about it being educational. From a site full of reprint articles, you could get a valuable insight into what topic on that site people might like a full, original site about. Then you know where to direct your next "respectable" efforts. ;)
Spam IS subjective.
45n5 says on May 4, 2007
"Spam IS subjective."
Amen.
I don't like spam either, but if it's going to be in the engines, making people money, with little work, wouldn't you rather it be your spam than theirs?
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